tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35329786.post3544174098616148952..comments2023-08-09T07:03:30.810-05:00Comments on hlog {Hockey's Ladies of Greatness}: Bettman's Latest Bad Bargain.Jordihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07150308503869826414noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35329786.post-22616795630210977222007-12-23T11:36:00.000-05:002007-12-23T11:36:00.000-05:00I agree with you. I hate how the whole game (which...I agree with you. I hate how the whole game (which consists of complex offensive/defensive transitions among the 10 players on the ice plus goalies)is reduced to one against one. A team with an amazing "team dynamic" might have a better record than another, but lose in a shootout because the other team has a sharp shooter who never misses, or etc. etc.<BR/><BR/>In response to Shan: The way I see it, the difference between a penalty shot and a shootout is this; the team on the defensive end of the penalty shot had done something illegal that hindered the other teams ensuing breakaway. Thus to make all right with the world, the team is given a "mock breakaway." So the team aspect of hockey has not been denied because it resulted from 1) the team's defensive breakdown of allowing the breakaway and 2) the team member's infraction that prevented the breakaway from continuing. Whereas shootout's completely ignore hockey's "Team-ness."<BR/><BR/>However, you cannot deny that people love the shootout. On top of it, as Shan said, people hate ties, and this is the only "big four" sport who allowed ties up until recently (besides football, who continues to allow ties, but it's quite rare, whereas hockey ties were pretty common). <BR/><BR/>Anyway, the thing I really dislike about the shootouts has to do with the point system. If you cannot win in regulation time, as a team, you are NOT worthy of claiming equal status to those teams who have. You have 60 minutes; do with it what you can. Which is why I support the 3-2-1-0 point system. Which is a completely different subject I'd love to rant about.Kerrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04181684589030780235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35329786.post-56587649953975556132007-12-23T11:12:00.000-05:002007-12-23T11:12:00.000-05:00there is also something to be said for a team that...there is also something to be said for a team that lets a game get to a shootout in the first place.<BR/><BR/>there was no good reason for the pens to lose that 4 goal lead. perhaps losing a point (regardless of what kind of overtime it is) is their punishment for that.Elliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02751978963531941338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35329786.post-51312969588656284402007-12-21T20:53:00.000-05:002007-12-21T20:53:00.000-05:00I don't think that you can argue a team is being p...I don't think that you can argue a team is being penalized by going to the shootout. They still walk away with at least 1 point that they would get from a tie. It's a frivolous, unnecessary contest for that extra point, but people find it entertaining. I'm not fond of the shootout either, particularly the way it has been implemented in the NHL. However, I don't think you can fault Bettman for it because overall fans enjoy it and he's giving them what they want, and his job is to market the game. I never had a problem with ties, but some people detest them. <BR/><BR/>On the standings board, the better teams are not necessarily up top, and even the teams with the superior talent aren't necessarily the ones climbing. But compare to soccer tournaments where the penalty kicks come in to break ties... yes, it's a test between individuals - player and goalie - in a given moment. Can that truly be written off as not a part of this game? The reality is that individuals having to rise to the occasion at key times is a part of the game so what's so different about it. Breakaways, dekes, accuracy are all elements of the game. Can we simply say it's not hockey just because your 4 other skaters aren't on the ice with you? If that's the case, penalty shots are entirely bogus. I don't think the answer to this is as clear as we'd like it to be.Shanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09720024916714288188noreply@blogger.com